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Post by Mousey on Jan 8, 2008 17:08:50 GMT -5
I wanted to get feedback from all of the members on this, not just staffers. :0 As members, I'm sure you're all familiar with the card naming system. So, has the filename of cpinkmb001. After you get thousands of cards, this really gets to be confusing and seemingly useless. I propose a new system of naming. So, now would have the filename pink4001, because it is a Pink card from Set 4, card 001 in the set. I know for ME that would be much easier, and we've had members quit in the past because the naming system is incredibly complicated compared to others. Would you be against or for this change in filenames? I know it would require a lot of work for a change-over at first, but time would likely be saved in updating your trading posts. (That's my primary line of thinking.) I appreciate any feedback!
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Post by Kearin on Jan 8, 2008 17:10:23 GMT -5
I like I like! I've already volunteered to help rename cards should it happen. :3
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Post by Tanakil on Jan 8, 2008 17:25:58 GMT -5
I just figured out this system Well if you do change them I wont change any of the ones on my site Only the new ones I put up.
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Post by Lady Chani on Jan 8, 2008 18:26:49 GMT -5
The naming system is easy to understand once you understand that the last letter designates what format the image is from (m-artbook, b-manga, a-anime, etc.) and the first letter (or two) is who or what it focuses on (greyap is PGSM Artemis, the 'a' saying it's Artemis and not Luna). It falls apart a little with ones like the Lavender deck and the Olive deck.... but I understand it.
Having to switch my nearly-700 cards over to a new system would drive me up a wall. If it's what the staff all agree to, I'd grumble noisily but do it anyway, but you might get a drop-off of people who aren't willing to make the switch, especially if they have lots of cards.
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Post by Tanakil on Jan 8, 2008 18:58:28 GMT -5
Well i still say the main can change and the new cards we get can be under the new system, as long as we dont have to change the only already on our sites
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Post by Lady Chani on Jan 8, 2008 19:08:15 GMT -5
I would guess you'd have to at least make sure you're sending people the new versions of the cards rather than the old ones for trades, because being sent pinkmb001 rather than pink4001 would be horrendously confusing and only make things worse.
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Post by Tanakil on Jan 8, 2008 19:49:29 GMT -5
oh I never thought of that.....
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Post by PockyPants on Jan 8, 2008 20:05:51 GMT -5
The naming system is easy to understand once you understand that the last letter designates what format the image is from (m-artbook, b-manga, a-anime, etc.) and the first letter (or two) is who or what it focuses on (greyap is PGSM Artemis, the 'a' saying it's Artemis and not Luna). I agree, it was a little confusing at first but once you've got it figured out it's really simple. Just having pink4001 would confuse me even more probably, because I don't memorize what each set is. Also the whole swapping old cards for new cards thing, as mentioned already.
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Post by Mousey on Jan 8, 2008 20:31:09 GMT -5
I understand & agree with all of your replies. XD You don't have to tell this to a member with over 2000 cards already; that's why I threw in the whole "change-over will be a pain" because I know it would be.
*I* understand the naming system but at the same time it's a little needlessly complicated for members who are just casually playing, you know?
The pros & cons are pretty obvious; I just wanted to let the majority choose. :3
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Post by Lady Chani on Jan 8, 2008 20:44:53 GMT -5
Might it be a suggestion to make a sort of... faq about the card names? Perhaps explain the methodology as to how the cards are named the way they are and why?
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Post by Mousey on Jan 8, 2008 20:46:07 GMT -5
That's actually a very good idea. I might do that somewhere in the site FAQ, if we keep the current system (which at this rate we probably will lulz).
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Post by Tanakil on Jan 8, 2008 21:03:08 GMT -5
Yeah that is a brilliant idea.
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Post by SailorNash on Jan 8, 2008 21:51:00 GMT -5
Personally, I understood the current system. Makes sense to me. Not a big fan of it though, but on the other hand I think it'd be more trouble than it's worth to switch things in midstream. Officially, my vote will be to leave it as-is....if you're new you can look it up, and you'll get the hang of it quickly enough.
What I would want to see is the name, whatever it ended up being, on the card itself. In the original SCM you could tell at a glance that a card was Red 006 or Blue 012. Here you have to figure it out based on the "code letters" between the deck name and the card number, or in the proposed new system, you'd still have to stop and look up which set number Manga Usagi or PGSM Mars was. (I actually think the current system would be easier than that, because I can guess things from the "code letters" but would have no way of knowing the set number without referencing the site.)
Of course, despite being the easiest system to use, having the official card name on the card itself would be the hardest to implement by far...not only would all of us with thousands of cards have to rename and relabel everything, but that would involve redoing every single card and therefore isn't really a viable solution. Just my two cents, however.....YMMV.
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Post by Megumi on Jan 8, 2008 22:55:35 GMT -5
I'd say no, simply because I'll never have the time to rename the 9049580394850938 cards that I already have. =x The current system is understandable enough.
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Post by Kajouka on Jan 8, 2008 23:01:29 GMT -5
I also voted no to the change because I have a ton of cards as well. And I have to agree with Nash that I don't know which cards always go with which set, so I would also have to constantly be looking that up anyway.
I think perhaps if you guys had information explaining the system so new players would understand it? once you understand that black and white minako is MB and anime minako is MA it makes sense. (just noticed that Chani suggested this as well).
I will say there are a few decks that I do find confusing. Midnight is one - I always have to look that up. Had it been named oa, ob, oc, od, etc, it would have been easier. Brown, Lavender, White, Olive... these are probably the ones I have the most trouble with.
Also, for site information you could put the name here:
(copied from card page)
PINK - Usagi Tsukino/Sailor Moon Set 1 - UM - Artbook Usagi Set 2 - MM - Artbook Sailor Moon Set 3 - UB - B/W Usagi Set 4 - MB - B/W Sailor Moon
...... etc and also on the actual page where the cards are located so that people don't have to right click and look it up.
Another thing that I noticed that is (somewhat) annoying is that the above system isn't always used consistently. For example, the cobalt deck has BM for artbook, which fits, then NM, LM, and SM for the b/w manga sets instead of NB, LB, and SB which fits the pattern. That may have made it harder for some of the new people to figure out the system, and occasionally left me asking for cards that didn't exist.
If I had to make a suggestion about the best way to name the cards, it would have been teal001 through teal200, however that would also require redoing all the cards and I wouldn't suggest that today.
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